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	<title>Comments on: Could Open Space work in Crozet?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Duncan</title>
		<link>http://www.realcrozetva.com/2010/01/25/could-open-space-work-in-crozet/comment-page-1/#comment-31480</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone, thanks so much for your comments. I really appreciate it and I&#039;m sure the Open Space folks do as well. 

The question really is - does Crozet yet have the critical mass to support an Open Space? I honestly don&#039;t know. I think we will in three years, but now I&#039;m not so sure. 

Hmmm ... maybe if we could somehow access this years&#039; tax returns and see how many people in the Crozet area are claiming the deduction for telecommuting ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone, thanks so much for your comments. I really appreciate it and I&#8217;m sure the Open Space folks do as well. </p>
<p>The question really is &#8211; does Crozet yet have the critical mass to support an Open Space? I honestly don&#8217;t know. I think we will in three years, but now I&#8217;m not so sure. </p>
<p>Hmmm &#8230; maybe if we could somehow access this years&#8217; tax returns and see how many people in the Crozet area are claiming the deduction for telecommuting &#8230; <img src='http://www.realcrozetva.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim, 

Good question.  I once considered starting a co-working facility at Old Trail; but, after doing a market and financial analysis, decided against it.   For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ll share why:

At a minimum, the annual operating cost for the first two years is around $65K, when factoring a commercial lease for 2000 sq/ft; capital cost for furniture and equipment; plus insurance, utilities, phone, broadband, etc.  If the business charged $100/month for unlimited access, then it would require approx. 55 annual members to break even.   

After informal discussions with people, I discovered that most (but not all) telecommuters and self-employed individuals would rather frequent a coffee shop, than commit to a monthly fee.   Although a membership size of 55 seems relatively small, my conclusion was that the Crozet-area market is not yet big enough to sustain a co-working facility business.

--Randy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim, </p>
<p>Good question.  I once considered starting a co-working facility at Old Trail; but, after doing a market and financial analysis, decided against it.   For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ll share why:</p>
<p>At a minimum, the annual operating cost for the first two years is around $65K, when factoring a commercial lease for 2000 sq/ft; capital cost for furniture and equipment; plus insurance, utilities, phone, broadband, etc.  If the business charged $100/month for unlimited access, then it would require approx. 55 annual members to break even.   </p>
<p>After informal discussions with people, I discovered that most (but not all) telecommuters and self-employed individuals would rather frequent a coffee shop, than commit to a monthly fee.   Although a membership size of 55 seems relatively small, my conclusion was that the Crozet-area market is not yet big enough to sustain a co-working facility business.</p>
<p>&#8211;Randy</p>
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		<title>By: Sharie Meduri</title>
		<link>http://www.realcrozetva.com/2010/01/25/could-open-space-work-in-crozet/comment-page-1/#comment-31474</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharie Meduri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
This sounds like an incredible concept!  I officially work out of an office in Richmond.  But the truth is that my home and car serve the greater role of a base.  This concept would certainly better serve my professional and organizational needs.  I would love to see the space and have the details of the features.

Thanks,
Sharie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
This sounds like an incredible concept!  I officially work out of an office in Richmond.  But the truth is that my home and car serve the greater role of a base.  This concept would certainly better serve my professional and organizational needs.  I would love to see the space and have the details of the features.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Sharie</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Beights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Beights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Eastlack</title>
		<link>http://www.realcrozetva.com/2010/01/25/could-open-space-work-in-crozet/comment-page-1/#comment-31469</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy Eastlack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, as you know I love the concept of OpenSpace.  And once given some thought, I might actually think it could work better in some place like Crozet, where many of the residents into Charlottesville.  However, I&#039;ve heard that many of these places around the country haven&#039;t been making it (a recent example was in the suburbs of Denver, where many people commute into the city).  I&#039;m not sure if this was due to poor planning or just general lack of use, but I&#039;d be curious about other co-working success/failure stories in similar communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, as you know I love the concept of OpenSpace.  And once given some thought, I might actually think it could work better in some place like Crozet, where many of the residents into Charlottesville.  However, I&#8217;ve heard that many of these places around the country haven&#8217;t been making it (a recent example was in the suburbs of Denver, where many people commute into the city).  I&#8217;m not sure if this was due to poor planning or just general lack of use, but I&#8217;d be curious about other co-working success/failure stories in similar communities.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wayland</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wayland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I wouldn&#039;t need such a space, but it makes alot of sense.  I would think it would contain Internet, copy and fax equipment, an office secretary/aide,  who could assist clients, collect money,operate the machines, take messages, etc.  The idea reminds me of a business incubator.  The old Community Credit Union building would be a good spot, if parking could be worked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I wouldn&#8217;t need such a space, but it makes alot of sense.  I would think it would contain Internet, copy and fax equipment, an office secretary/aide,  who could assist clients, collect money,operate the machines, take messages, etc.  The idea reminds me of a business incubator.  The old Community Credit Union building would be a good spot, if parking could be worked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a commuting professional who works in Charlottesville and lives in Crozet.  I&#039;m lucky enough to work for an organization that has implemented ROWE (a topic for another day) which means I can work wherever and whenever I want.  In general, I go to my office but I&#039;d be willing to work more in Crozet if there were some dedicated space for it.  With two kids, working at home is out of the question.  Mudhouse works in a pinch but an OpenSpace annex in Crozet would be great for home based productivity and for networking with like minded professionals.  I would, absolutely, use the space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a commuting professional who works in Charlottesville and lives in Crozet.  I&#8217;m lucky enough to work for an organization that has implemented ROWE (a topic for another day) which means I can work wherever and whenever I want.  In general, I go to my office but I&#8217;d be willing to work more in Crozet if there were some dedicated space for it.  With two kids, working at home is out of the question.  Mudhouse works in a pinch but an OpenSpace annex in Crozet would be great for home based productivity and for networking with like minded professionals.  I would, absolutely, use the space.</p>
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