Some big and heady discussions at tonight’s CCAC meeting. I encourage, and darn near implore you, to read the tweets. And get aware and involved.
- Lots of discussion about trails – a massive part of what makes Crozet great.
- Y’all need to read the tweets about Crozet schools.
- Community Advisory Committee update
- Watch the video of the meeting (Thanks, Crozet Gazette!)
Crozet Trails
This should be … fun? #ccac0918https://t.co/pj3N6VPzJ8
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Beginning. #ccac0918 pic.twitter.com/YIxNnCWEXi
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Lots of people here tonight. Lots of different neighborhoods. #ccac0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Talking about the role of CACs. They are here to support the master plan, not change it. #ccac0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Ann Mallek says the County May be revisiting master plan next year? #ccac0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Crozet Trails crew – “plan, build & promote multi-use trails in the Crozet Community. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Terri (president of Crozet Trails Crew) moved to Crozet because it’s going to grow & be more dense; trails help with connectivity. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan Mahon talking about how the trails follow riparian paths and such. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
> 2500 Crozet Trails volunteer hours in past 12 months. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Awesome. #CCAC0918 pic.twitter.com/El4lhC2VcT
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
I’m going to try to publish this Crozet Trails presentation; they’ve done *so* much for the community #CCAC0918 @MiyamotoTerri
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Terri talking about the way finding signs; they make the trails official #CCAC0918 https://t.co/7ER3HFIHU5
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
I saw this on the Crozet Trails. https://t.co/SCmKeYixTu#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Crozet Trails 5K coming up – their biggest fundraiser. https://t.co/UN80Typzb1#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
The Crozet Trails volunteers are (insert superlative here)#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Terri – the Crozet Trails Crew aren’t just who shows up; they want everyone to participate. Pick up a stick while walking. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan Mahon – this is trail building, but it’s also community building #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
(plug: quite a few ride with the Easy Riders of Crozet Cycling Club) #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – I work with groups all over the County; I wish I could replicate this group. Talking about trail ambassador program, referencing Biscuit Run #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – talking about the Cory Farms connection that is a/the critical piece that will connect #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Green is downtown crozet #ccac0918 pic.twitter.com/6TxD7Jb3Xj
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Terri – they keep moving the Lindy Bain Trail in Old Trail. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Foxchase have asked for a connection to the trails; that means a bridge. Another bridge over Lickinghole in Cory Farms is needed (hopefully first, IMHO) #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Want to connect the Meadows through Old Trail. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – there’s also another effort w/ bike/ped initiatives with VDOT – there’s a strong awareness of that on Crozet Ave. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Bike paths increase property values. https://t.co/7qNVVxC9od#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – when I started, development community didn’t like trails. Now they want them. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
What is the value of a greenway? https://t.co/LhbGMBHiMH#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Q from audience: is there anything we can do as citizens to encourage development of these trails?
A: coming later#CCAC0918— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Q: What about traffic on 250, encouraging more trails so kids can walk and bike?
A: they are there behind Henley #CCAC0918— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Trails are good for place-making. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – they asked for the floodplain for the trails, as pathway and linear park system. Dan: “when I hike, I take a hammock.” (awesome) #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
They want to start working on Western Park Trails. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Biggest challenge – getting permission to do trails. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dan – important for people to know the future plans of the trails crew. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Challenge – everyone loves what they do, but few choose to participate, as with all community orgs. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Learn more about the Crozet Trails – https://t.co/mN4ZSSTctw
~7 miles of documented Crozet trails#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Me: We need as many trails as we can get. They help property values, community building, obesity, independence, awareness. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Ann Mallek – fall is beginning time for County budget. If interested, come to county meetings to advocate for trails funding. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Terri – https://t.co/CQRtlGjfHP#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dave Oberg – White Hall Albemarle County School Board rep
Dave – we are going to have overcrowded schools unless we take drastic action #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dave – planners’ formulas say we don’t have overcrowding reality is we do.
Albemarle does terrible job of building school infrastructure. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dave – countering the perception that these new homes are for retired people #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Me: I always wonder who in the hell ever thought Old Trail would have not kids #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dave Mitchell – “What’s the solution”?
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Dave Oberg – we need to plan for >10 years out. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Yep. #CCAC0918 https://t.co/upoxxfipoW
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
Oberg – we need school centers. More malleable, quicker to build, multi-purpose. Bigger high schools aren’t the answer. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 19, 2018
These school centers could be multi-purpose. They demand a different teaching style though. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – EMT courses at CATEC are hugely valuable. Doing one now at WAHS#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – elementary schools are faster and cheaper to build. Thinks Brownsville is too big #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – there is expansion on Crozet Elementary, but it’s far down on CIP#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – there’s going to have to be redistricting. We need to redistrict the inner ring #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – it’s not feasible to fix school situation now. We need more elementary schools If we were to do everything we need to do, we need $200M #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Joe Fore, to Ann – what’s the BoS perspective on this? There’s a disconnect b/t what School Board needs & BoS say they need. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Ann – things have changed in 10 years. From BoS, there is a lack of understanding as to what is needed. (interesting, the dynamic b/t School & BoS) #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Joe, following up – it’s not just the money, it’s that the BoS & School Board don’t connect. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Ann – 60% of new revenue goes to schools. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg talking about the school board’s attempt at the bond referendum https://t.co/aKYNZoYPtr@craftypanda #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Q re: growth – Crozet is going to be ~20K by 2030. I count 15 new developments right now. That’s a lot. What do your numbers show re: growth? #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – “we know that within 10 years, we are going to have a catastrophe.”#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – the Board of Supervisors hold the money to distribute to fire, schools, trails, etc. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
They've already had a budget related meeting this year: https://t.co/5xkHNtupxm
— Allison Wrabel (@craftypanda) September 20, 2018
Oberg – if you have kids entering kindergarten, you need to be very concerned. As a community member, you need to be concerned. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Some Albemarle schools are feeling serious capacity pressures, and much of the growth is in the Crozet area.https://t.co/7mh1oDX94E
— The Daily Progress (@DailyProgress) September 20, 2018
Tom Loach – are you advocating for larger schools?
Oberg – no. WAHS is over capacity. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Joe Fore – schools & trails are particularly important in Crozet. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Would you be willing to pay more in taxes that would *stay* in Crozet?https://t.co/Q5vSxVyfbI#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
I’ll answer this. No. People aren’t willing to pay more.
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – I firmly believe that our schools will never be bad. But we need to fix the infrastructure, stop reacting, & start planning. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Q: w/ all the numbers, where would you spend the first Million?
A: security. We are spending millions securing our schools #CCAC0918— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – we need community participation. Last year, we were deciding $185M budget — 1 person showed up. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Valerie Long – what can we do to bring more commercial development so residential don’t shoulder it all? #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Ann – we’re trying to attract & keep commercial development here. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – economic development is essential to our kids. They can have jobs, get internships. Graduating HS is not preparing our kids to work. Not in this economy. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – the single greatest issue. for which they didn’t prepare me is the stress of the kids, and the suicide rate. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Oberg – funding schools & CIP are important. So are having life skills, and getting a job & being successful human beings. #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Tom Loach, CAC Meetings Update
Tom Loach wants to develop a plan/agenda when working with other CACs. What topics should we submit?#CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Tom Loach – we don’t have good data about growth (fair point) #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
Librarian just said we’re done. I LOVE hard breaks to meetings! #CCAC0918
— realcrozetva (@realcrozetva) September 20, 2018
